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 Post subject: Re: The Last Air Bender
PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 12:58 pm 
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1) LOL you got me there...kinda. This movie wasn't made from scrap with no idea how characters and settings would look like. They had the television show that spawned the movie, so how can they cause such a controversy? Believe me, I'm not the only one that feels Hollywood whitewashed the film. Like I said earlier in my other post, this was a great opportunity to give minorities the chance to play lead roles.
2) I said they "whitewashed" the cast, and if Dev Patel was white he would have been included. You do know that Jesse McCartney was originally supposed to play Zuko right? (my bad for leaving the other part of your sentence out).
3) Take into consideration that there will be people watching this that haven't watched the show before. They won't know what you know because he is portrayed as an evil character in the first movie attempting to hunt down Aang.
4) I've read interviews from fansites of the television show, and actually have a link for everyone to check out. It's not even just the creators that are probably disappointed. Everyone that worked on the show is probably disappointed. If they worked so hard in putting so much detail into the show to create an authentic East Asian feel (The fighting choreography, the writing, clothing, etc.), wouldn't they feel a bit pissed off that Hollywood changed all that?


1)I understand that the show was before the movie. In the show Aang was white, Zuko was white, and Katara and Sokka were black. in my opinion, and whenever I watched they show before it came on, Sokka and Katara were white, because of the subtle black coloring. Even my friends (one of them is actually black) was surprised at all of the controversy over the cast of the movie because he saw the cast as mostly white whith heavy asian influence as well.
2)But he is not white. And Jesse McCartney (I believe) was just a phoney announcement by the studio to bring some attention to the movie, with how quick they changed from JM to DP, I highly doubt they were trying REALLY hard to get Jesse IF THEY WERE trying at all, negotitons take a while; for them to try to sign Jesse from the begining, then suddenly change to Dev within a week or two seems unlikely, but what is, is. Thank god he is not Zuko because I could not piture him as Zuko at all.
3)But still....
4)Hollywood changed nothing of that. (Well, let me put it this way:) From the trailers we see so far, everything but the cast color's and wether they are asian or not is wrong. If, however, the movie comes out, and they are wearing something that I can not imagine the Avatar universe to be wearing, or fighting the way the Avatar universe does not fight, exc. I will be mad and might take into consideration that whitewashing the cast could have had some influences on it. From what we see now, all of the work the creators have put into the show are obviously seen in the movie.


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Link to discussion about The Last Airbender: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0938283/boa ... #142289933

"Trust me they are seeing how the fans react but Nick Animation, Bryan and Mike HAD NO SAY IN HOW THE FILM WAS CAST so please give those guys a break. It is quite apparent what their casting choices would have been from the 7 years of work they put into the animated series.
If you see them don't give them a hard time please"

-Sifu Kisu


Who is Sifu Kisu? If she is someone from the studio or someone who worked on the movie, you can believe this. If not then this is just some reporter trying to make Paramount look like jerks.

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"It's been a huge disappointment to hear about the casting for Avatar's live-action movie. The show was heavily influenced by Asian culture, some of the characters were even modeled after Asian members of the crew. But now, with the pre-dominantly white cast, it feels like all the Asian/Eastern influences, origins, what have you, were just a backdrop for these characters. But I always believed they were Asian, or even mixed Asian. And that belief added a little extra pride in working on such a great show. The appreciation Mike & Bryan had for Asian culture, the interest it generated in the fans, gave ME greater appreciation for my own culture.

So it's just hard to believe they couldn't find one Asian actor to hold any of the lead protagonist parts. Not one? This film is going to feel like some other Avatar story."

- Dao Le, Animatic Editor, Avatar: The Last Airbender


I never said I felt bad about the way they did not cast Asian characters for the film... I wish they did. But, this is all over now, the movie is made, and there is nothing anyone can do about it.

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Interview with the creators

"Well, Bryan had worked with Eric Coleman, the head of development at Nickelodeon, and we knew that Nickelodeon was looking for a [particular fantasy] kind of show, so we kind of took that directive and set about creating our own mythology. And we wanted to base it in Asian rather than European background, and use the elements; to use martial arts as kind of the basis for the magic in the show… even though we don't call it "magic," it is the supernatural element of the show."
- Mike

"The basic concept was all there in our pitch: the world and he overall structure of the story we wanted to tell. Eric had indicated they were looking for a "legends and lore show," so we thought, what if this was set in an Asian mythical world? A legend based on the past, but an alternate past."
-BRYKE (Bryan and Mike)

"Actually, Katara's like, hair loops, the hair loopies... They used to hang down, uh, just loosely and [animation director] thought that would be too hard to animate. And, um, thought they'd be moving around too much. So, he had the idea to tie them back, which actually ended up being an authentic Inuit hairstyle."
-BRYKE (Bryan and Mike)

"Yeah, early on… Mike and I just bought dozens of books. You know, learning kung fu, hands-on, and not just copying stuff out of a movie, we really, really wanted to understand it. And you know, there's so much to learn, we're still researching, all of the really rich cultures and proud traditions, and so, we're just trying to pay homage."
-BRYKE (Bryan and Mike)

INTERVIEWER: You guys are not Asian so how did you come up with such an Asian cartoon?

BRYKE: We read a lot about Buddhism, Daoism, and Chinese history. We also have several consultants who work for the show - a cultural consultant that reviews all the scripts; a Kung Fu consultant who helps choreograph all the bending moves so that they are accurate to the style on which they are based; and a Chinese calligrapher who does all the signs and posters in the show. We don’t use any written English words in the show.


If that kind of detail went into creating the show and went unnoticed, then it was a waste of their time creating it.
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How did it go unnoticed again? There IS such thing as adopting Asian cultures, exc. as a white person. Regardless, like I said above, we will have to see the whole movie to actually tell if the creator's detail went "unnoticed". Right at the moment, with the previews and photos, nothing has gone to waste.

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 Post subject: Re: The Last Air Bender
PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 2:56 am 
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1)I understand that the show was before the movie. In the show Aang was white, Zuko was white, and Katara and Sokka were black. in my opinion, and whenever I watched they show before it came on, Sokka and Katara were white, because of the subtle black coloring. Even my friends (one of them is actually black) was surprised at all of the controversy over the cast of the movie because he saw the cast as mostly white whith heavy asian influence as well.
2)But he is not white. And Jesse McCartney (I believe) was just a phoney announcement by the studio to bring some attention to the movie, with how quick they changed from JM to DP, I highly doubt they were trying REALLY hard to get Jesse IF THEY WERE trying at all, negotitons take a while; for them to try to sign Jesse from the begining, then suddenly change to Dev within a week or two seems unlikely, but what is, is. Thank god he is not Zuko because I could not piture him as Zuko at all.
3)But still....
4)Hollywood changed nothing of that. (Well, let me put it this way:) From the trailers we see so far, everything but the cast color's and wether they are asian or not is wrong. If, however, the movie comes out, and they are wearing something that I can not imagine the Avatar universe to be wearing, or fighting the way the Avatar universe does not fight, exc. I will be mad and might take into consideration that whitewashing the cast could have had some influences on it. From what we see now, all of the work the creators have put into the show are obviously seen in the movie.


1) I've always seen firenation as Japanese (their armor, facial hair, etc.), earth kingdom as Chinese (armor, facial hair, The Royal Palace resembles The Forbidden City in China), water tribe as Inuits (the clothing, and living environment), air nomads as Tibetan Chinese (they don't really look Shaolin Monks). If Sokka and Katara were black on the show, then what is Guru Pathik's race to you? What about Gyatso?
2) I don't know if you heard but apparently Jesse McCartney was replaced due to schedule conflict with his tour or something. I don't think that was the case, because people were angry and complaining about how they whitewashed the cast, and soon he was replaced by Dev to shut them up. You should read up on how the castings were done (from main characters to extras), and maybe you'll understand where I'm coming from. There should be a link that takes you to a website called "racebending" from my previous post.
4) Even if they do wear East Asian/Inuits styles of clothing or use martial arts (martial arts is obviously going to be in there), how does it pay homage to minorities its suppose to represent? (assuming they keep it like how they show was). It's like a slap in the face and saying "you're not good enough to wear your own cultural/traditional clothing, etc".

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Who is Sifu Kisu? If she is someone from the studio or someone who worked on the movie, you can believe this. If not then this is just some reporter trying to make Paramount look like jerks.


LOL! Sifu Kisu is the man who helped choreograph the fighting for the show to match the different bendings and create an authentic feel. The creators/animators turned to him for reference/consultant since he is trained in different styles of martial arts.

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I never said I felt bad about the way they did not cast Asian characters for the film... I wish they did. But, this is all over now, the movie is made, and there is nothing anyone can do about it.


You're right that there's nothing anyone can do about it now, but it can be prevented for next time. That's why there are people and organizations that represent the minorites trying to fight for equality in Hollywood.

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How did it go unnoticed again? There IS such thing as adopting Asian cultures, exc. as a white person. Regardless, like I said above, we will have to see the whole movie to actually tell if the creator's detail went "unnoticed". Right at the moment, with the previews and photos, nothing has gone to waste


I have a strong feeling a majority of the extras in the background will be people of colour, regardless what nation they are supposed to play as. Why give roles to a Caucasian to play an East Asian, when you can easily give that to an East Asian person? Wouldn't it make sense to do that? Also if Sifu Kisu (Sifu means "teacher" or "master") disagrees with the casting, then that's saying a lot. He's not East Asian either so yeah...

This video is of Sifu Kisu teaching cosplayers at Comic con how to do the different bendings:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7Wscz2nXQs

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 Post subject: Re: The Last Air Bender
PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:19 pm 
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A couple of things I want to clear up. First of all, Mike and Bryan have signed nondisclosure agreements and legally CAN'T say anything against this movie. Bryan however, pointed out that he had NOTHING whatsoever to do with the casting in the movie. He also released a poster of an older Aang with VERY Asian features.

Second, there are no white people in the world of Avatar. People see Aang as white because he has no stereotypical Asian features. Just because they don't have slanty eyes and yellow skin doesn't mean they're white. Also, Katara and Sokka are not black. They are Inuit.

Third, I don't think people understand the problem at hand. Paramount specifically asked for white people to play Asian and Inuit roles. Again and again in Hollywood, Asian protagonist roles are given to white actors because of a myth lingering from the days of yellowface that Asian heroes can't sell a film. No one wants to see an Asian hero, they want to see a white hero. Why can't Asians play their own people? This happens again and again and if we don't take a stand and not see movies that do this, then it will only continue to happen. Asian actors in this movie were only allowed to play villains and extras in this movie.

What did I miss? If anyone has any question or disagreement I'd be glad to answer it or refute it.


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 Post subject: Re: The Last Air Bender
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A couple of things I want to clear up. First of all, Mike and Bryan have signed nondisclosure agreements and legally CAN'T say anything against this movie. Bryan however, pointed out that he had NOTHING whatsoever to do with the casting in the movie. He also released a poster of an older Aang with VERY Asian features.

Second, there are no white people in the world of Avatar. People see Aang as white because he has no stereotypical Asian features. Just because they don't have slanty eyes and yellow skin doesn't mean they're white. Also, Katara and Sokka are not black. They are Inuit.

Third, I don't think people understand the problem at hand. Paramount specifically asked for white people to play Asian and Inuit roles. Again and again in Hollywood, Asian protagonist roles are given to white actors because of a myth lingering from the days of yellowface that Asian heroes can't sell a film. No one wants to see an Asian hero, they want to see a white hero. Why can't Asians play their own people? This happens again and again and if we don't take a stand and not see movies that do this, then it will only continue to happen. Asian actors in this movie were only allowed to play villains and extras in this movie.

What did I miss? If anyone has any question or disagreement I'd be glad to answer it or refute it.


Thank you!

There are many examples of this in past movies and even in current ones today like The Last Airbender. David Henrie from the Disney show "Wizards of Waverly Place" is playing the role of "Tommy Zhou" from the comic by Platnium Studios (Tommy Zhou is supposed to be Asian American). Also from the movie Extraordinary Measures, the person that actually came up with the cure for the Pompe disease was a Chinese man named Dr. Yuan Tsong Chen. Even the main character from the movie "21" was based off of an East Asian person. In the movie however, they changed it to a Caucasian person.

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 Post subject: Re: The Last Air Bender
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This issue's getting quite a lot of attention lately. In fact, Barack Obama commented on the whole thing saying "There's white people, and there's ignorant motherfuckers like you"

...Sorry, I just couldn't help myself.

But it seems we've come to a consensus of either agreement or disagreement, and no one's gonna be swayed. So at risk of sounding insensitive, I'm changing the subject a bit...

So ignoring the movie entirely, Avatar is pretty popular and enjoyed but wide variety of people. It never ceases to surprise me who catches a reference I'll make or who makes one themselves. The other day my hard-ass of a boss told me my jokes were worse then Sakkas. I was like... WAH? Did you just reference that totally freakin awesome Nickelodeon Cartoon!? He said his kids watched it, and one day he got sucked in as well. I feel like this is a common story. It sort of reminds of how Harry Potter picked up in popularity.

Anyway, I'm just wondering how everybody else got into it? Friend recommendations? family? Advertising? You're actually in the age demographic that Nickelodeon targets? Personally, two of my friends were obsessed with it, and I kept scoffing and teasing them, until they finally broke me. I watched it and I was forced to admit the amazingnes of that show.


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 Post subject: Re: The Last Air Bender
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JWolps wrote:
A couple of things I want to clear up. First of all, Mike and Bryan have signed nondisclosure agreements and legally CAN'T say anything against this movie. Bryan however, pointed out that he had NOTHING whatsoever to do with the casting in the movie. He also released a poster of an older Aang with VERY Asian features.

Second, there are no white people in the world of Avatar. People see Aang as white because he has no stereotypical Asian features. Just because they don't have slanty eyes and yellow skin doesn't mean they're white. Also, Katara and Sokka are not black. They are Inuit.

Third, I don't think people understand the problem at hand. Paramount specifically asked for white people to play Asian and Inuit roles. Again and again in Hollywood, Asian protagonist roles are given to white actors because of a myth lingering from the days of yellowface that Asian heroes can't sell a film. No one wants to see an Asian hero, they want to see a white hero. Why can't Asians play their own people? This happens again and again and if we don't take a stand and not see movies that do this, then it will only continue to happen. Asian actors in this movie were only allowed to play villains and extras in this movie.

What did I miss? If anyone has any question or disagreement I'd be glad to answer it or refute it.


Thank you!

There are many examples of this in past movies and even in current ones today like The Last Airbender. David Henrie from the Disney show "Wizards of Waverly Place" is playing the role of "Tommy Zhou" from the comic by Platnium Studios (Tommy Zhou is supposed to be Asian American). Also from the movie Extraordinary Measures, the person that actually came up with the cure for the Pompe disease was a Chinese man named Dr. Yuan Tsong Chen. Even the main character from the movie "21" was based off of an East Asian person. In the movie however, they changed it to a Caucasian person.

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I see your point in brnging that up, but To be really extremely honest, the two look alike. Do you have a different picture of the comic/cartoon that I can compare it to?

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 Post subject: Re: The Last Air Bender
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JWolps wrote:
A couple of things I want to clear up. First of all, Mike and Bryan have signed nondisclosure agreements and legally CAN'T say anything against this movie. Bryan however, pointed out that he had NOTHING whatsoever to do with the casting in the movie. He also released a poster of an older Aang with VERY Asian features.

Second, there are no white people in the world of Avatar. People see Aang as white because he has no stereotypical Asian features. Just because they don't have slanty eyes and yellow skin doesn't mean they're white. Also, Katara and Sokka are not black. They are Inuit.

Third, I don't think people understand the problem at hand. Paramount specifically asked for white people to play Asian and Inuit roles. Again and again in Hollywood, Asian protagonist roles are given to white actors because of a myth lingering from the days of yellowface that Asian heroes can't sell a film. No one wants to see an Asian hero, they want to see a white hero. Why can't Asians play their own people? This happens again and again and if we don't take a stand and not see movies that do this, then it will only continue to happen. Asian actors in this movie were only allowed to play villains and extras in this movie.

What did I miss? If anyone has any question or disagreement I'd be glad to answer it or refute it.


Since when do they sign something sayign they can't say ANYTHING against the movie? It's THEIR movie. THEIR show. THEIR characters. They can say that they made the worst movie in the world if they wanted to. I can see if they signed something that states they cant say anything against the movie until after it is released in theaters from the studio and distrobution studio, but that is entirely different. Which is why they would praise the movie and contribute to marketing it by word of mouth. Which means AGAIN we are back to square one: we have to wait until the movie is released untl we judge it.

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ChaosMaster16 wrote:
1)I understand that the show was before the movie. In the show Aang was white, Zuko was white, and Katara and Sokka were black. in my opinion, and whenever I watched they show before it came on, Sokka and Katara were white, because of the subtle black coloring. Even my friends (one of them is actually black) was surprised at all of the controversy over the cast of the movie because he saw the cast as mostly white whith heavy asian influence as well.
2)But he is not white. And Jesse McCartney (I believe) was just a phoney announcement by the studio to bring some attention to the movie, with how quick they changed from JM to DP, I highly doubt they were trying REALLY hard to get Jesse IF THEY WERE trying at all, negotitons take a while; for them to try to sign Jesse from the begining, then suddenly change to Dev within a week or two seems unlikely, but what is, is. Thank god he is not Zuko because I could not piture him as Zuko at all.
3)But still....
4)Hollywood changed nothing of that. (Well, let me put it this way:) From the trailers we see so far, everything but the cast color's and wether they are asian or not is wrong. If, however, the movie comes out, and they are wearing something that I can not imagine the Avatar universe to be wearing, or fighting the way the Avatar universe does not fight, exc. I will be mad and might take into consideration that whitewashing the cast could have had some influences on it. From what we see now, all of the work the creators have put into the show are obviously seen in the movie.


1) I've always seen firenation as Japanese (their armor, facial hair, etc.), earth kingdom as Chinese (armor, facial hair, The Royal Palace resembles The Forbidden City in China), water tribe as Inuits (the clothing, and living environment), air nomads as Tibetan Chinese (they don't really look Shaolin Monks). If Sokka and Katara were black on the show, then what is Guru Pathik's race to you? What about Gyatso?
2) I don't know if you heard but apparently Jesse McCartney was replaced due to schedule conflict with his tour or something. I don't think that was the case, because people were angry and complaining about how they whitewashed the cast, and soon he was replaced by Dev to shut them up. You should read up on how the castings were done (from main characters to extras), and maybe you'll understand where I'm coming from. There should be a link that takes you to a website called "racebending" from my previous post.
4) Even if they do wear East Asian/Inuits styles of clothing or use martial arts (martial arts is obviously going to be in there), how does it pay homage to minorities its suppose to represent? (assuming they keep it like how they show was). It's like a slap in the face and saying "you're not good enough to wear your own cultural/traditional clothing, etc".


1) Guru is black and Gyatso is darker-skinned white. (I see Sokka and Katara as darker-skinned black too, in reality, I have a friend who is not black, but is darker skinned white)
2)I do understand; I am saying the whole thing is just a bunch of bull that he happened to be cast, then a week later he gets replaced because he had some jungle gym course to do when they were filming. If I was the casting director, I would have looked into this BEFORE I casted him. And I believe they knew about it, "casted" him, with intention of soley trying to market the film without spending one dime. They had Dev Patel lined up even before they announced Jesse's involvement with the film. No noone would ever admit it because some people would probably look down on everyone that was involved with the process, but as someone who wants to be a direcotr/producer/screenwriter, I know it was a great way to bring attention to the film, and I will applaud them for doing that. ESPECIALLY since its opening only 2 days AFTER the B.O. gobbler Eclipse.
4)Its good because its in the movie and its not forgotten. (If it actually is in the movie) The work the origonal costume and culture designers, exc. from the show were not put to waste and were actually used.

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Who is Sifu Kisu? If she is someone from the studio or someone who worked on the movie, you can believe this. If not then this is just some reporter trying to make Paramount look like jerks.


LOL! Sifu Kisu is the man who helped choreograph the fighting for the show to match the different bendings and create an authentic feel. The creators/animators turned to him for reference/consultant since he is trained in different styles of martial arts.


Alright, so there is a plausible source. But to be executive producers on anything and not have ANY say in how to cast a film is bull.

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I never said I felt bad about the way they did not cast Asian characters for the film... I wish they did. But, this is all over now, the movie is made, and there is nothing anyone can do about it.


You're right that there's nothing anyone can do about it now, but it can be prevented for next time. That's why there are people and organizations that represent the minorites trying to fight for equality in Hollywood.


You make this sound like its some black vs. white Martin Luther King Jr. movement here..... It's nothing like that. Once there are some good and recognizable asain actors in Hollywood, I think this would cease to exsist. (Jackie chan is NOT a good actor!)

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How did it go unnoticed again? There IS such thing as adopting Asian cultures, exc. as a white person. Regardless, like I said above, we will have to see the whole movie to actually tell if the creator's detail went "unnoticed". Right at the moment, with the previews and photos, nothing has gone to waste


I have a strong feeling a majority of the extras in the background will be people of colour, regardless what nation they are supposed to play as. Why give roles to a Caucasian to play an East Asian, when you can easily give that to an East Asian person? Wouldn't it make sense to do that? Also if Sifu Kisu (Sifu means "teacher" or "master") disagrees with the casting, then that's saying a lot. He's not East Asian either so yeah...


It's not saying that much. Just that the guy disagrees with the casting. We all have our opinions. But I don't see how its that big, its not like he is director, producer, or anything.

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I really think we should drop this subject like what the OP suggested. This is going nowhere because neither party will be swayed to believe the other. Also because you fail to provide any links or quotes to back your statements, therefore I decided only to reply back to certain things you said. You've been talking out of your ass and that's why this is so pointless. So far I've provided you with links, quotes and other resources yet you failed to utilize them. Seriously if you do want to continue this debate, go read Jwolps post over and over again and then make use of the links I provided in my earlier posts. I hope you're not 10 years old or something because otherwise it's a total waste of time...even though it already sort of is.

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I see your point in brnging that up, but To be really extremely honest, the two look alike. Do you have a different picture of the comic/cartoon that I can compare it to?

You have fingers to type, go search for it yourself! I provided links and pictures for you and now you're asking for more, holy smokes! i would hate to be your partner for a project.

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4)Its good because its in the movie and its not forgotten. (If it actually is in the movie) The work the origonal costume and culture designers, exc. from the show were not put to waste and were actually used.

4) So you're justifying that people of colour are not good enough to wear their own cultural clothing.

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Once there are some good and recognizable asain actors in Hollywood, I think this would cease to exsist. (Jackie chan is NOT a good actor!)

Once there are some good and recognizable asian actors? There are MANY talented actors of colour. Name me at least 5 male and 5 female actors in a MAJOR HOLLYWOOD FILM within the last 5 years that had a LEADING role that are East Asians. Even if I gave you the option to go back 7-10 years, you probably would have named a stereotyped movie that's about an Asian Cop that knows Kung Fu. Answer me this, how does one become recognizable when they are not preferred in the eyes of Hollywood and a MAJORITY of the opportunities are all going to a certain race?

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It's not saying that much. Just that the guy disagrees with the casting. We all have our opinions. But I don't see how its that big, its not like he is director, producer, or anything.

Yeah we all do have our opinions, but he's not just SOME GUY. He's the consultant for the television show and was counted upon to help make the show what it is. He is just as important as the creators of the show. He's the GO-TO guy for the creators, and I'm VERY sure he had A LOT of INPUT into the show. If he doesn't approve of it, it DOES say A LOT.

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You make this sound like its some black vs. white Martin Luther King Jr. movement here..... It's nothing like that.

LOL I find this really ironic. Every character on the show is either BLACK or WHITE to you. I don't know if that's how you see people in the world, or if you never go outside to experience different cultures. Do the characters have to be pointed out and stereotyped for you to believe they are a certain race? The only way you'd probably believe Aang is East Asian is if he had an accent. Then again you thought Guru was black and that Gyatso was white even though Guru clearly had a South Asian (India to be precise) accent.

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Guru is black and Gyatso is darker-skinned white. (I see Sokka and Katara as darker-skinned black too, in reality, I have a friend who is not black, but is darker skinned white)

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 Post subject: Re: The Last Air Bender
PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 5:57 pm 
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Chaos Master- You are sounding really ignorant here. I'll repeat myself. The creators legally can't say anything against the film because THEY SIGNED A NONDISCLOSURE AGREEMENT. Look it up, it happens whenever something is adapted to film. The Earthsea tv movie comes to mind. Earthsea's creator couldn't say anything against the whitewashing her characters until years after it came out.

Also, it appears that in your world pale skin = white and dark skin = black. This is not the case at all. Like thisisyourusername said, open your eyes to the different cultures of the world and stop seeing it in black and white.


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